Introducing myself

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ViewsAskew
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Re: Introducing myself

Postby ViewsAskew » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:33 am

Excellent to hear.

My experience was similar to Steve's. I augmented on one, also on the other.

I cannot remember...how high is your serum ferritin? I found that key for me to not augment as quickly, allowing me to use pramipexole for longer times before I had to stop it.
Ann - Take what you need, leave the rest

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Re: Introducing myself

Postby badnights » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:03 am

Based on my imperfect understanding of a subject that even researchers in the field don't understand (so for whatever it's worth!) I tend to think a long-acting DA just masks whatever dysfunction the DA is causing, for longer than a short-acting DA would. I don't know if my nebulous negativity is useful to you in making this choice; the information you need to make it just doesn't exist.
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Re: Introducing myself

Postby stjohnh » Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:51 pm

Well, here's my theory of DA's and augmentation: As time goes on at a particular dose of a DA, the dopamine receptors get less and less responsive to the DA, requiring higher doses to achieve the same symptom control (the dose increase requirement is a well known aspect of DA treatment of RLS). At some point the DA receptors become completely saturated, making increasing doses ineffective and causing severe side effects (augmentation). Keeping the DA dose low, such that the patient has a spell each day of mild RLS symptoms, helps to keep the receptors from losing too much sensitivity. Short acting DAs cause a spike in the blood level with each dose, that spike is what saturates the receptors, leading to sensitivity loss and ultimately augmentation. Long acting DAs have less of that problem because the med is released slowly into the blood stream, avoiding the high blood level spikes that short acting DAs have, leading to the observation that long acting DAs have fewer problems with augmentation, but the augmentation risk is still there.

It is well known that saturation of some brain receptors causes VERY serious side effects in some cases- think the deaths and brain damage that occurred in France a couple of years ago with an accidental overdose during the study of an experimental pain medication.
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