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An old member just returning

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:20 pm
by gowacky
So I’m 73 now and have had RLS all my life or just noticing it close to being a teen. It went undiagnosed until I was about 30 when listening to a medical talk show on the radio I realized they were talking about me! I immediately saw a neurologist and have been symptom free until lately. I hate it but the symptoms are creeping back into my life. I currently take 1.5 mg of Mirapex and 2mg of klonopin.

I’m wondering what other help may be available now and I’m interested in opioid therapy. I have pain from arthritis and permanent nerve damage from shingles so an opioid therapy approach sounds good to me but I need to find a neurologist that will prescribe opioids to other than terminal patients.

I’m happy this site has grown and I look forward to seeing what I can learn.

Best Regards,

Perry

Re: An old member just returning

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:59 pm
by stjohnh
Perry, Welcome back. 1.5mg mirapex is a high dosage. You may be augmenting. Discuss this with your neurologist.

Re: An old member just returning

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:50 pm
by gowacky
I’m aware that I’m at the maximum dosage and I’m exploring ideas of what to do next. My neurologist has had an easy time with me as I’ve been symptom free all these years. As I understand it neurologists are divided in their opinion of opoid therapy. I’ll talk to him first but plan to find a doctor who is agreeable to trying opoids.

Re: An old member just returning

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:49 pm
by Rustsmith
Perry, the current max recommended dose of pramipexole for RLS is 0.5mg, so you are quite a bit beyond that.

The other type of medication that is recommended for use with RLS these days is gabapentin, Horizant or Lyrica. These might be useful, but will not help you get off of the pramipexole. Quitting pramipexole can be extremely difficult unless you have an opioid to help cover the withdrawal period.

As for opioids, the doctors who understand RLS do not have a problem with prescribing opioids once you have "failed" the other two types of medications. If you think that you could convince your neurologist to let you try, this paper that was published earlier this year by Mayo Clinic might help convince him that it could be your best option.https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(17)30825-X/fulltext

Re: An old member just returning

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:20 pm
by legsbestill
The other potential treatment option is an alpha2delta ligand such as pregabalin or gabapentin. I know these are sometimes prescribed for back pain so maybe they would help with nerve damage also? I don’t know enough about them to say but they do work well for some for rls.

Re: An old member just returning

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:22 pm
by legsbestill
Sorry, just saw that Steve already mentioned the a2d drugs. My bad! They seem sometimes to be slightly less effective for those who have been through dopamine agonist induced augmentation - but may be worth a try ...