Iron Patches

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Iron Patches

Postby SquirmingSusan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:05 am

Someone in a bariatric surgery group just posted about these vitamin patches. They have multivitamin patches that have 45 mg of iron, as well as iron-only patches. The get great reviews, and I'm going to give them a shot. I'm due for my check-in with the hematologist to have more iron infusions, but not really looking forward to that.

https://store.bariatricpal.com/collecti ... y-supply-1
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby ViewsAskew » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:34 pm

Sounds interesting. After my third infusion, I had over 50% reduction in meds for almost 6 months, then slowly started creeping up again. I am still below where I was when I received it a year ago, but back to about where I was for several years.
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby ViewsAskew » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:45 pm

Darn it - they put way too much vitamin C in it. Oddly, I am sensitive to all forms of acids - malic, citrus, etc, as well as citrus fruits. I could only use this if it had about 25% of the RDA, not 400%!
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby SquirmingSusan » Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:32 pm

Well darn it, Ann! I take something like 6 grams of vitamin C a day. Odd they would put it in a patch; I thought vit C was to help iron absorption in the digestive tract.
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby badnights » Tue Nov 07, 2017 6:00 am

They say the C is added for enhanced absorption. Maybe the same chemical process takes place across the skin as across the GI tract.
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby ViewsAskew » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:05 am

6 grams of C would make me CRAZY with itching - whole body, non stop. I shudder to think of it. I cannot eat one orange every day for a week. 3 a week, max, lol. And, no other acids or citrus!
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby SquirmingSusan » Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:48 pm

Here's another iron supplement I came across. Much less vitamin C. 6.5 mg per serving. Not sure I like "nano" anything, and their science is a bit questionable, but it looks interesting.

https://shoppe.listentoyourgut.com/angs ... -32-fl-oz/
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby badnights » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:10 am

Hmmm. I personally will leave off ingesting nano-sized particles of anything for now, even of iron. There's some concern that this type of formula could send a person' out of iron homeostasis (possibly causing iron overload) because the particles bypass the usual transport mechanisms thru cells of the gut walls. But my main concern is that the long-term effects are completely unknown, and we don't have a good track record with that kind of stuff. Some nano-particles - not ones found in food additives, but nevertheless - have caused physiological changes (enlarged villi) in the gut walls of chicken. Maybe I'm over-cautious.
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby SquirmingSusan » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:15 am

Actually I realized the patches are said to be nano particles. They seem to be scientifically impossible, since the weight of the patch is less than 1/10 of the claimed weight of the nutrients in them. When I asked them about it, they said it was due to their special dehydration process, and basically magic.

Regarding nano-particles, apparently most of the IV iron formulations involve nano-particle iron. According to this article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3459360/

"Most IV iron agents are colloids with spheroidal iron-carbohydrate nanoparticles. Each particle consists of a carbohydrate shell that stabilizes the iron-oxyhydroxide core (Fe [III])." I had no idea that nano-particles are as common as they are. They've apparently been used in animal feed for years, and in iron infusions.

Since I don't absorb oral iron, I think I'm stuck with nano-particle iron, either by infusion, patch, or oral supplement.
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby badnights » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:15 pm

Ah. Interesting.
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Re: Iron Patches

Postby Rustsmith » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:53 pm

Nanoparticles are common in nature, it is just that we haven't had a way to detect or see them until very recently. My area of technical expertise involves a specific form of iron sulfide that frequently exists as nanoparticles and these nanoparticles turn out to be one of the key ingredients to the start of VERY early life, where amino acids on Earth started to combine and ultimately lead to the formation of DNA.
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