Kratom tolerance question
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:46 am
Hi everyone,
From the tons of posts I've read over the past few months or so, I decided to try Kratom. I looked at a few websites and found one that I felt was presented well and had a lot of good customer reviews, so I gave it a shot. Www.buykratom.us. Their customer service is prompt if you happen to have had issues with the shipping which I had the first time (I paid extra for next day shipping but it was delivered a day late and it had a money back guarantee on the delivery date so they responded to my message within hours and acted quickly to reimburse me the money I paid for the shipping) or if something is wrong with the package which was my last shipment because it looked like someone at the post office took a box cutter to something without realizing my package was underneath it. It sliced through both of the packages of Kratom which affected one more than the other and spilled some of the contents inside the package it shipped in. So they responded within hours again, and have shipped me my order again at no charge.
Anyway, that's just about the vendor who seem really good if anyone is interested in checking them out. On to the Kratom itself....when I first ordered the Kratom I got the Horned Red Vein and took a teaspoon of the powder and weighed it on our food scale which was about 2 g. I had read about taking it with orange juice, I had made sure to start only with the 2 g for my first dose and see how it went. It didn't really do anything at 2 g so I took another teaspoon and that was when I really felt it. It felt really calming, soothing and almost as if I was being wrapped in a warm blanket; serene. The restlessness melted away and I drifted off into sleep. It wasn't a deep sleep, but it was calming and I was rid of the restlessness so I was happy. I thought that I had found the ticket to calming the madness inside my legs, lower back, and sometimes my arms.
What I didn't really know much about was how often you could take it and I was in a really bad flare so I basically just kept the warm relaxed feeling going until the restlessness had passed. Unfortunately I had run out of the Kratom rather quickly because I didn't order much, not knowing what it would be like or how I would react to it so I didn't feel like spending more money than necessary if it turned out to be something I wouldn't use again. So the next time I ordered it I tried a different red vein variety. Thai Red Vein. This one wasn't as potent as the Horned Red but I also ordered the Horned Red with it so that I could have that in case the smaller size of the Thai Red Vein wasn't helpful for the restlessness. It helped, but I realized I needed to take more of the Thai Red Vein to feel the relief I felt with the Horned Red. Then I realized that I had to increase the amount of Horned Red I was taking to get the relief from the restlessness and I didn't really think much of it apart from the fact that this stuff isn't regulated and so the potency of each batch is likely varried, which would explain why I had to take a little more this shipment than last. But then I decided to search these boards again and started to worry that I had developed a tolerance. It's been about three weeks (as I said I didn't order much each time just to be on the safe side so I didn't end up spending too much and having a bunch left over of something I might not use again) and in my last order I ordered a larger size of the Thai Red Vein because I liked that it was gentler than the Horned Red and still gave me the relief. The Horned Red made me REALLY itchy (the first batch I had ordered, not so much the second) and the Thai didn't seem to do that at all. I also ordered their Stem and Vein variety because the description stated that it would enhance the relaxing aroma of the Kratom to reduce tolerance. I've tried it since I received it and I don't really feel the same relief that I did that first time. I am still using orange juice, evenly measured teaspoon and I do the "toss and wash" with the powder and orange juice because it's just faster and easier for me to get it down. I don't like the way it tastes.
I have also experienced constipation so bad that it reminded me of when I was first prescribed Adderall XR for my narcolepsy to combat the daytime sleepiness. I have read that the Kratom can make you constipated so I've made sure that I'm taking my probiotic daily and eating more leafy greens and all that jazz. But man oh man this stuff can back you up something FIERCE if you're not aware that it will do that to you. I only was aware of it AFTER I came back here to search through the forums and found that other people mentioned this side effect and was relieved that it was because of the Kratom since that was the only thing I had done differently.
Anyway....I don't want to over do it so I've just stayed with three teaspoons (6 g) of the Thai Red Vein for fear of building even more of a tolerance than I already have (if that's what this is) but does anyone have any insight into their experiences with it? Do you find that the relief you get from your restlessness carries between batches? Are there any helpful tips as to how you can prevent building this tolerance, or, if you have some level of tolerance is there any way that you can get your body back to a level of homeostasis so that you can take a smaller dose and feel the same relief that you had felt the first time you took it?
I am not looking to get high or take this recreationally, I just want relief and was thrilled when I found that this could help. It just hasn't been as helpful since and I know that it's likely that I wasn't sure how much to take and how often to take it and so I just kept it at an effective level for me at the time during a severe flare.
Any help would be appreciated!!!
Thank you!
From the tons of posts I've read over the past few months or so, I decided to try Kratom. I looked at a few websites and found one that I felt was presented well and had a lot of good customer reviews, so I gave it a shot. Www.buykratom.us. Their customer service is prompt if you happen to have had issues with the shipping which I had the first time (I paid extra for next day shipping but it was delivered a day late and it had a money back guarantee on the delivery date so they responded to my message within hours and acted quickly to reimburse me the money I paid for the shipping) or if something is wrong with the package which was my last shipment because it looked like someone at the post office took a box cutter to something without realizing my package was underneath it. It sliced through both of the packages of Kratom which affected one more than the other and spilled some of the contents inside the package it shipped in. So they responded within hours again, and have shipped me my order again at no charge.
Anyway, that's just about the vendor who seem really good if anyone is interested in checking them out. On to the Kratom itself....when I first ordered the Kratom I got the Horned Red Vein and took a teaspoon of the powder and weighed it on our food scale which was about 2 g. I had read about taking it with orange juice, I had made sure to start only with the 2 g for my first dose and see how it went. It didn't really do anything at 2 g so I took another teaspoon and that was when I really felt it. It felt really calming, soothing and almost as if I was being wrapped in a warm blanket; serene. The restlessness melted away and I drifted off into sleep. It wasn't a deep sleep, but it was calming and I was rid of the restlessness so I was happy. I thought that I had found the ticket to calming the madness inside my legs, lower back, and sometimes my arms.
What I didn't really know much about was how often you could take it and I was in a really bad flare so I basically just kept the warm relaxed feeling going until the restlessness had passed. Unfortunately I had run out of the Kratom rather quickly because I didn't order much, not knowing what it would be like or how I would react to it so I didn't feel like spending more money than necessary if it turned out to be something I wouldn't use again. So the next time I ordered it I tried a different red vein variety. Thai Red Vein. This one wasn't as potent as the Horned Red but I also ordered the Horned Red with it so that I could have that in case the smaller size of the Thai Red Vein wasn't helpful for the restlessness. It helped, but I realized I needed to take more of the Thai Red Vein to feel the relief I felt with the Horned Red. Then I realized that I had to increase the amount of Horned Red I was taking to get the relief from the restlessness and I didn't really think much of it apart from the fact that this stuff isn't regulated and so the potency of each batch is likely varried, which would explain why I had to take a little more this shipment than last. But then I decided to search these boards again and started to worry that I had developed a tolerance. It's been about three weeks (as I said I didn't order much each time just to be on the safe side so I didn't end up spending too much and having a bunch left over of something I might not use again) and in my last order I ordered a larger size of the Thai Red Vein because I liked that it was gentler than the Horned Red and still gave me the relief. The Horned Red made me REALLY itchy (the first batch I had ordered, not so much the second) and the Thai didn't seem to do that at all. I also ordered their Stem and Vein variety because the description stated that it would enhance the relaxing aroma of the Kratom to reduce tolerance. I've tried it since I received it and I don't really feel the same relief that I did that first time. I am still using orange juice, evenly measured teaspoon and I do the "toss and wash" with the powder and orange juice because it's just faster and easier for me to get it down. I don't like the way it tastes.
I have also experienced constipation so bad that it reminded me of when I was first prescribed Adderall XR for my narcolepsy to combat the daytime sleepiness. I have read that the Kratom can make you constipated so I've made sure that I'm taking my probiotic daily and eating more leafy greens and all that jazz. But man oh man this stuff can back you up something FIERCE if you're not aware that it will do that to you. I only was aware of it AFTER I came back here to search through the forums and found that other people mentioned this side effect and was relieved that it was because of the Kratom since that was the only thing I had done differently.
Anyway....I don't want to over do it so I've just stayed with three teaspoons (6 g) of the Thai Red Vein for fear of building even more of a tolerance than I already have (if that's what this is) but does anyone have any insight into their experiences with it? Do you find that the relief you get from your restlessness carries between batches? Are there any helpful tips as to how you can prevent building this tolerance, or, if you have some level of tolerance is there any way that you can get your body back to a level of homeostasis so that you can take a smaller dose and feel the same relief that you had felt the first time you took it?
I am not looking to get high or take this recreationally, I just want relief and was thrilled when I found that this could help. It just hasn't been as helpful since and I know that it's likely that I wasn't sure how much to take and how often to take it and so I just kept it at an effective level for me at the time during a severe flare.
Any help would be appreciated!!!
Thank you!