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I find that when I am augmented, I get many more PLMW - periodic limb movements during wakefulness. My legs - and arms - would jerk a lot.
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Re: myoclonus
Curious. I remember this from augmenting too, but for me it was never periodic, hence I never called it PLMW.ViewsAskew wrote:I find that when I am augmented, I get many more PLMW - periodic limb movements during wakefulness. My legs - and arms - would jerk a lot.
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Please help me understand...when you say it wasn't periodic, I am not following. Did it just happen once in awhile rather then several in succession?Frunobulax wrote:Curious. I remember this from augmenting too, but for me it was never periodic, hence I never called it PLMW.ViewsAskew wrote:I find that when I am augmented, I get many more PLMW - periodic limb movements during wakefulness. My legs - and arms - would jerk a lot.
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Re: myoclonus
thanks for sharing. did you get it in the day as well? i noticed increased frequency on my legs initially at night, now i get them in the day from time to time; now on my arms as well after my ropinrole was increased to 1.5mgViewsAskew wrote:I find that when I am augmented, I get many more PLMW - periodic limb movements during wakefulness. My legs - and arms - would jerk a lot.
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Yes, exactly. But it would usually force me to get up and walk around, so this may have prevented further jerks.ViewsAskew wrote:Please help me understand...when you say it wasn't periodic, I am not following. Did it just happen once in awhile rather then several in succession?Frunobulax wrote: Curious. I remember this from augmenting too, but for me it was never periodic, hence I never called it PLMW.
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During augmentation, it was 24/7. PLMW at any point while awake, PLMS during sleep (when I rarely did sleep), and RLS constantly (even during sleep).fuz_mind wrote:thanks for sharing. did you get it in the day as well? i noticed increased frequency on my legs initially at night, now i get them in the day from time to time; now on my arms as well after my ropinrole was increased to 1.5mgViewsAskew wrote:I find that when I am augmented, I get many more PLMW - periodic limb movements during wakefulness. My legs - and arms - would jerk a lot.
Ann - Take what you need, leave the rest
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I don't think mine was rhythmic or regular, either. I would have the movements even while walking or standing. It seems to be very typical of augmentation when augmentation is on the more severe side.Frunobulax wrote:Yes, exactly. But it would usually force me to get up and walk around, so this may have prevented further jerks.ViewsAskew wrote:Please help me understand...when you say it wasn't periodic, I am not following. Did it just happen once in awhile rather then several in succession?Frunobulax wrote: Curious. I remember this from augmenting too, but for me it was never periodic, hence I never called it PLMW.
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Re: myoclonus
it seems better now that my ropinirole has been cut to 1.25mg..........
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That is good.fuz_mind wrote:it seems better now that my ropinirole has been cut to 1.25mg..........
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Re: myoclonus
i'm wondering if this is a sign of augmentation? if it improves with reduction of medication? because my neurologist and his learned colleagues r of the opinion that the leg and hand jerking are a sign that i need more ropiniroleViewsAskew wrote:That is good.fuz_mind wrote:it seems better now that my ropinirole has been cut to 1.25mg..........
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In my experience and that of people here (anecdotal, but over 15 years), daytime jerking is augmentation. Of course, it can be other serious things!fuz_mind wrote:i'm wondering if this is a sign of augmentation? if it improves with reduction of medication? because my neurologist and his learned colleagues r of the opinion that the leg and hand jerking are a sign that i need more ropiniroleViewsAskew wrote:That is good.fuz_mind wrote:it seems better now that my ropinirole has been cut to 1.25mg..........
When I augmented and learned what it was, I slowly decreased the pramipexole. When I did, the jerking diminished, as did the horrible over-the-top symptoms. When I stopped it completely, the jerking came back. As time went by, over a few weeks, the jerking greatly reduced. It took quite awhile before all daytime jerking stopped - it was in my hands, oddly enough, that lasted the longest. And, in my hands it was minor - a flutter when typing. But, it did stop.
That is just my experience, though. I do know others have mentioned daytime PLMs when augmented. How many? No idea. But, enough that I would feel safe saying there is a good chance that it is related to augmentation.
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Re: myoclonus
ViewsAskew wrote:In my experience and that of people here (anecdotal, but over 15 years), daytime jerking is augmentation. Of course, it can be other serious things!fuz_mind wrote:i'm wondering if this is a sign of augmentation? if it improves with reduction of medication? because my neurologist and his learned colleagues r of the opinion that the leg and hand jerking are a sign that i need more ropiniroleViewsAskew wrote:
That is good.
When I augmented and learned what it was, I slowly decreased the pramipexole. When I did, the jerking diminished, as did the horrible over-the-top symptoms. When I stopped it completely, the jerking came back. As time went by, over a few weeks, the jerking greatly reduced. It took quite awhile before all daytime jerking stopped - it was in my hands, oddly enough, that lasted the longest. And, in my hands it was minor - a flutter when typing. But, it did stop.
That is just my experience, though. I do know others have mentioned daytime PLMs when augmented. How many? No idea. But, enough that I would feel safe saying there is a good chance that it is related to augmentation.
thanks for sharing your experience! appreciate it!
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I am not aware of having PLMs either awake or asleep.
However i do have occasional jerks. Not every day. Maybe not for several days.
Actually, thinking about it, it could be a couple of weeks since I've had any. Then there are days when I could have half a dozen random jerks. Usually the shoulder or arm, sometimes the leg, and always on the right hand side of my body.
They are much less since I stopped taking Tramadol. On Tramadol my leg would shoot out. Might even have gone from below me.
However i do have occasional jerks. Not every day. Maybe not for several days.
Actually, thinking about it, it could be a couple of weeks since I've had any. Then there are days when I could have half a dozen random jerks. Usually the shoulder or arm, sometimes the leg, and always on the right hand side of my body.
They are much less since I stopped taking Tramadol. On Tramadol my leg would shoot out. Might even have gone from below me.
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