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Irena
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At witts ends and a question, back and RLS related?

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Today I went to see a Neurologist. My doctor put me on Sinemet*CR* 50/200 1 tab twice a day and he also put me on Klonopin .5mg...4 tab's at night and Ambien 10mg...1 tab at night when needed. I also have GERD and take Aciphex and don't take my Zantac after finding out it interferes with my RLS med's. And it seems to be working not taking it. My doctor's priority was to get me some kind of sleep, even if it was only 3 or 4 hours of sleep but quality sleep. So that's why the Ambien, then combined with the klonopin to help sleep and help anxiety because this is all getting to me and then increasing my dosages of Sinemet, it seemed to be working, but I still had trouble sleeping. He said my tolerance level on medication for normal people it would be on low dosage, but because my body doesn't work that way for some reason, I have always needed higher dosages for anything to work. I also can't take any kind of anti-inflamatories because my stomach won't take too good with them. But I can take it through injection in my back side though and not affect my stomach. But as I was told, that way only lasts for about 2 hours.

Anyway, my doctor said he'll refer me to this neurologist, and if I wanted to go then I could if I didn't I didn't have to and to just stick with him. I should have done that. I took the advice on here, I went to that web site and printed up all that was on there about RLS and med's and everything and took that with me today. It did me no good at all. I knew more on RLS than he did and he had 2 students in with him as welll.

Now while there he asked me for any reports, him being in the military hospital where my doctor is as well, they always get your record there so when you turn up they've looked through your file. He had nothing there and when he asked me, I said well I thought you'd have them being that your the inhouse specialist and I"m not going off base, because if I would have gone off base then I would have had to do that.

I went to a Neurologist years ago in Australia, when I went to him in australia, I went because I found a large numb spot on my left side of my buttocks. He examined me and found I had very sensitive feet, in other words not normal. Then he proceeded to the rest of my legs and found that I had different feelings in my calfs and thighs, not full feeling in other words or differnt feeling to the other side or even numb areas.

He was the one who told me that if I can't take one kind of anti-inflamatory that I won't be able to take any kind of anti-flamatory.

So I go to this appointment today and I have never seen anything like it before. I swear to god, it was set up like a school principals office. He sat behind his small desk with blank lose pieces of paper and his students.

I sat about 2 meters across from him in a chair.
I actually really only went to see him because I had noticed numbness in my calfs and thighs and buttocks and arms. The med's my doctor put me on for RLS were working, so I thought I'd see him about this while there.

He ended up having to go and call other places to get reports that I didn't have with me. One was a report on an MRI that I had done, another was a report on a Myelogram that I had done, while my husband was in Baghdad. He never got the report of the x-ray though that showed the area of my tailbone being fractured. But if I knew what the Myelogram was going to be all about, I would never have had that done, while I was alone here with 2 kids and my husband deployed. I took a very bad reaction to it and ended up in the E.R. 3 times and it was my doctor who prescribed pain medication for me, I couldn't even lift my head it was too painful. I got nothing from this specialist today and only annoyed me and my husband and we could tell the student actually wasn't impressed with his work on me either. It was the student who asked me how long now have you had the sciatic pain for now, I said 2 days now. The specialist told myself and my husband that he couldn't help me with my sleep problem or my anxiety, which actually if one doesn't get sleep, the other kinda falls into place. He tells me I have to see someone else for either one of those things. Then he didn't test my legs for numbness, he put a cold round object of some kind on the top of my feet and asked if I could feel that. Yeah of course I can feel that. He told me he couldn't treat me for my back, that I was there today for RLS, which he knew nothing about. But at least I got copies of my reports on tests I had done on my back. He also tells me that this will be a life time illness and it's just something I'll have to handle.
Looking at my tests I had done on my back, the only thing that I don't have a report on is my fractured tailbone, but what I do have reports on is :
At L2-3, there is mild diffuse bulging disc slightly asymmetric lateralizing to the right. There is mild ventral flattening of the thecal sac.
At L3-4, ther eis a moderate sized diffuse bulging disc with ventral flattening of the thecal sac. Mild inferior neural foraminal encroachment.
At L4-5, there is a mild diffuse bulging disc with ventral flattening of the thecal sac.
At L5-S1, there is a moderate sized diffuse bulging disc with ventral impression upon the thecal sac. At the disc level, there does appear to b bulging disc that extends into the inferior neural foramina bilaterally. That is from the CT.
The Myelogram Lumbar basically says the same, but it also says,
There is question of mild asymmetric nerve root filling with slight diminished nerve root filling on the left when compared with the right at L5-S1.

The MRI states that I have Degenerative facet joint changes present bilaterally L5 - S1, in other words Degenerative disk disease with the left S1 Radiculitis.

All I understand about this is that something isn't right with the nerve or nerve endings someplace. And RLS is something to do with the central Nervous system.

I'm wondering if both are linked some how or what. But what got me the most and angry today was when the idiot Neurologist said to me just before walking out the door, he stated that they really couldn't give me anything to treat my lower back pain, because it would conflict with my medicine for RLS. Which I thought was a load of crock. Because when I printed up that url that you kind people put me on to, I found things on there that I have been put on back in Illinois when my back went out and is on the list also for RLS.

My left arm I've had in a what you call it a ummm....kinda brace for a week now, it started in my wrist and now is still in my wrist the ache but it goes all the way up my arm and it is painful. If I wrapped it and cut the circulation off, it would relieve some of the pain, until I had to unwrap to give the circulation back into my arm.

He told me, he must have noticed I was upset, well I told him I was frustrated, especially when my husband asked him, well what happens when she hasn't had any sleep for 2 to 3 days, can we come in and see you, he said, well you'd have to go through central appointments and book an appointment and we both know what going through that is like. He asked me if I wanted a second opinion other than his. I replied back, well there is no one in this area that knows or treats RLS. He said well there is Alabama. I said to him straight up, I should have just stuck with my doctor, but thought I might be able to get some more input or something, he didn't like my remark. I have lost all tolerance with them all. I go through bouts of anger, because of all the BS, excuse my lingo, but I'm so upset,frustrated, it's just I can't even find the words to explain it. My marriage feels like it's on a roller coaster, along with my body. I think my husband is fed up with me being this way. If its not my back its my RLS. Then I have my kids and his to look after and he'll be going away to school for 6 weeks and I'll be here alone again.
There are times where I just don't want to be here anymore. I've had enough. God forbid if I was to tell a doctor that, they would send me to someone a shrink, and he would sit there and watch me and only make me feel worse. So I call Australia and talk with my sister who has back problems and is on her 4th back surgury and is in constant pain, and I know she'd understand how and what I'm feeling.

On top of all this, my son was in a car accident last night, he got whip lash out of it, but I had to basically argue with my husband to take him to the E.R. to have him checked out. A few weeks before that he got a speeding fine of $300, and last night will cost me on the fine he got as well, which will be $112.00 then the repair to the car we got a rough quote for around $850, then the other guy when he makes his claim on our insurance and even if he doesn't, because he basically just got a scratch on the sight, we got more damage. It's going to raise our car insurance and it's christmas time and we also are still going through my husband's ex wife for custody of his son, he's of age to choice but she's prolonging and making lies and things difficult. then I have my son on medication that he has to be monitored on because it's possible side effect is depression and suidice, also last friday, he broke up a fight at school which the principal called him a hero, but he got hurt and ended up in the E.R. and the area he got hurt in was the same area they treated last night after his car accident. Then we have to move between the 22nd of dec thru to the 29th of dec from base housing. Going from a 3 bedroom to a 4 bedroom, because the kids since we've had my husbands' son living here, it's been cramped. So we have to take it, but it's smack in the week of christmas and if you know anything about military base housing cleaning inspections, there very picky. If i had the money I would have had someone else come in and do that so we could at least get some kind of normality in our lives. But I start my period right on the 22nd and finish the day before inspection and when my period hits with this cold weather as well, my back is gone as it is now and now my left arm, it took me 2 days to scrub the stove/oven clean to there approval. I did that a few weeks ago, cuz I knew that would take the most time. Anyway, I've really talked way way too much tonight, I'm at my witts ends right now.

I'm sorry for all this yapping, but Im awake with nothing to do and lots going thru my mind and no faith left.

Thanks for the ones who always reply back to me and some how or other always seem to make me feel better. Your special kind of people to do that, there are more that just don't want to know, or don't care. But you all put your time in not just for yourselves, but for others, and that's a very very good quality in a person. And if you've never been told that before I'm telling you now, you are remarkable truly caring people. Thank you.

Irena
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Try to make others laugh or smile and try to have a laugh once a day. Try to keep on going even if its a bad day of pain. Don't give up keep pushing and smiling.

becat
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((((((((Irena)))))))))

Post by becat »

Ok First I will tell you that your not giving up! We won't and will boot you in the catooter to bring you with us. More likely, we support you, comfort you, and let you scream, just like today. I swear it, there is hope. We simply have to make it work for you. This is a very frustrating time for many of us, it just never helps to feel badly. Stress is the pits, life happens even when we're not ready. Darn it.
The base housing and the cleaning........been there, done that too. Your so right about them being more than picky. Two things........You know that your husband Copany as people willing to help. Isn't there a spouses group? We had a network of wives that helped each other. I know it is not easy to ask, but I bet some of them would be willing to help clean that house with you. Given you medical condition, it might be a good idea to ask some of them. It's the perfect time of year for people to help, your first in line to receive some. Also, there is a product called Simple Green, it's green so don't spray it on anything white. But a couple of sprays in the air, just before the inspection, works great. Smells clean goes a long way. You can find it just abut anywhere, maybe a Wally World near you (walmart).
The wreck, did that with my youngest this summer. It's awful, just awful. My heart goes out to you. I don't care what the end result is, it's a very stressful thing on couples. My husband and I had a stretch of rocky road surrounding our son's wreck. It doesn't help much, but keep trying to tell yourself it could have been worse. in our case it could have easily been more tragic than it was. Just count your blessings no one was more hurt than they were. Be strong honey, youngin"s are hard to raise. Men and woman see things differently, even when you want the same end result. You can always replace parts on cars, money comes and goes as fast as we make it.......but the health of your son is the most important. God Bless him he'll recover and no long term handicaps or injuries.
The doctor............I'm so proud you let him know, in what ever way, you were displeased. No it doesn't help that he didn't do anything for you, but you will find gifts in this as well. You did all the right things and still came away wanting to punch a wall. Welcome to RLS, it's a common reaction from the doc., your hubby, and you. I'm not really joking when I say educate yourself, you may have to educate the doctor you see. The gifts? Yes, you have some. You know now that you will truely have to be your gatekeeper. You will have to push for the things you need to have Quality of life. We cannot sit back and hope or wish the doctors did a better job. You hire them, you have to make them do there job. Doing nothing for you is not working. So, if you have pain, make that an issue they have to deal with. You have the right not to live in constant pain. Plain and simple. You have the right to healing sleep. If they have to adjust your medications, so be it. And you have the right to reject any medications YOU KNOW work against you. Doctors may be highly educated, but they do not live in your body. If you know that your stomach doesn't take certain medications well, refuse them and ask for another type. I wouldn't want a shot that only last two days, that's just me. I know I can't take steroids, the heartburn burns a hole through me for a week. I refuse and ask for options. I sound brave and demanding, but trust me, it took a while to get educated enough and torked off enough to get here. You sound like your well on your way. It's not a bad thing. My anger forced me to seek the proper treatment and not take anything less in the process. "Ok, I did it your way. Now we're going to try it my way! My family, I.....deserve a better Quality of life!" This is what I feel needs to change in this RLS community, doctors have to address these problems. Your hopelessness is not uncommon. It's ok to feel the way your feeling, just don't give up. It can be better and your worth what it takes to get there.
Your Hubby.......It's a problem many of us have. I am not the same woman my husband married. My body has fought me daily. I have given into it many times. My hubby is a strong man, as I'm sure yours is. But only you can educate him about your life style, pain, and struggles. He has no idea how it feels to be pregnant, right? You would have to explain it. He's pushed his body many times before, no sleep and in pain, but his goes away. You need to connect the dots for him. Give him examples he's experienced before himself and relate how you feel. Every day. If you could sleep, you would. Your not wanting this life style, it's your body, not you. It takes time to teach those around us how it feels. I found that for the longest time I hid things about my life from the man I lived with. He just thought I was being witchy. The eternal PMS therory (sp?). But I found that when I told him about my body, how it felt everyday, and my struggles to maintain........he understood more. This effects him and your children too. He saw how hard it is to get people to believe what they cannot see. Your trust will build as you learn to share with him. He loves you, he'll see. Find that way to explain to him, so that he understands.
Irena, I'm just so sorry about this all. Your not alone. WE're still here. WE will still be here again and again. Several of us would run right over and hug you and help clean if we were closer. It would not be a pretty site for sure RLS cleaning crew. Can you imagen? :lol:
Smile my dear, find one thing to smile about today. No matter how small it may be, find yourself a smile. Breath DEEP! Take one moment tonight to look at the moon and the stars. Know that your under them and we're with you. Your needed, cared for, and thought about, prayed for. This too shall pass. Your coming with us on the trip, we're not leaving you behind.
Much love, my prayers and thoughts, and the biggest ((((((cyber Hug))))) my puter will transfer to you.
Hang in there girl and vent anytime.

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Post by ViewsAskew »

Soon, I keep my fingers crossed, soon none of us will have to go through this. If we each had a dollar for some incompetent neuro who claims to know something about this. . .well, it wouldn't make us rich, but you get my point.

Good luck, Irena. It sounds like you know what you are doing and are doing your best. That's as much as you can do.

Ann

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