Are Repeated (Stuck) Thoughts Common In PLMD?

[sleepdancer2]

I've mentioned this before but not seen others mention it, but then again, I didn't outright ask. So now I'm asking. When my movements were bad, I experienced what I call "stuck thoughts". It was when one phrase, or one line from a song, or one brief scene repeated maddeningly when I was not soundly asleep, yet not quite awake. Is this phenomenon a part of having periodic limb movements, or am I just the (un)lucky one?

[debbluebird]

I've had PLMD for years and have never had that. Sorry

[ViewsAskew]

Are you taking, or were you, a dopamine agonist at this time? One of the many side effects, for me at least, is what I call ADD brain. I have songs that repeat over and over (even in my dreams) - usually a segment of it, not the whole thing. Sometimes I'd have two or three competing songs at the same time - crazy.

[Rustsmith]

Before I started any treatments for RLS (which includes PLMs), I experienced something like what you are describing. I would fall into a low level of sleep but would still be conscious. Either before falling asleep or while in this semi-sleep, my mind would start racing and I would be stuck on one topic. There were nights when the topic was not pleasant and I would have to force myself to wake up completely and then concentrate on changing the topic to something that was either productive or at least a more pleasant thought.

When I discussed RLS with one of my sisters to see if she had inherited it, she said no but then she described her insomnia as something along these lines. I did not get a chance to ask her husband if she has PLMD, but since I believe that our father had severe PLMD and I know that I inherited at least 3 of the 5 RLS genes from him, I would not be surprised to find out that she has it as well.

[sleepdancer2]

Interesting. Seems the experiences vary - no surprise there. lol Wonder if it depends on if one is medicated or not. When I look back on it, my mind was worst at this when I was augmenting. It still rears it's ugly head now and then, but not so forcefully.

[ViewsAskew]

I've always had my mind stick on things - I count in my head ALL the time. It just seems to need something to do, lol. But, augmentation was a completely whole 'nother level of it! And, even now, when I take a DA a few days a week (then stop to prevent augmenting again), I find that just a low dose of pramipexole - .125 mg - is enough to amplify all of that tenfold. Augmentation was 100 fold, I thing, lol.

[badnights]

I would get like Steve describes, unpleasant topics that I couldn't escape from being within as I was falling asleep. I don't recall that ever happening with pleasant topics, but probably I just don't remember because it was not traumatic. I know this was happening when I was severely sleep-deprived, but I can't remember if it was during DA time. Interesting.

[ViewsAskew]

I wouldn't ascribe pleasant or unpleasant - they are just unwanted and constant. They are random. They are bizarre. They are mundane. They just don't stop. It's songs mostly, but can be other things, too.

[badnights]

Mine were scenarios. Not dreams, though.

[ViewsAskew]

Yeah - I get those, too. It is like I am storytelling. They feel real - it definitely isn't dreaming, but feels sort of like it. It happens in pre-sleep a lot.

[Polar Bear]

I am a 'counter' as mentioned above by Views.
Especially when emptying the dishwasher...... before I know it I've counted the knives, then the spoons, etc. as I put them away.

[ViewsAskew]

I am a 'counter' as mentioned above by Views.
Especially when emptying the dishwasher...... before I know it I've counted the knives, then the spoons, etc. as I put them away.

Isn't that a strange thing? I count my steps, items being put away, all kinds of strange things.

[Polar Bear]

Yes Ann, count the towels as I put them away, for a time I worried I was becoming compulsive.

[ViewsAskew]

I wondered about the compulsive aspect, too. Mine seems more to be observational rather than compulsive...how about you?

[Polar Bear]

I don't have any repetitive needs, or the need for strict order - it's just counting and that is not always, although quite frequent.
It's not something that I 'need' to do - I just sometimes realise that I am doing it