Any luck with a sleep study?

Please share your experiences, successes, and failures in using non-drug therapies for RLS/WED (methods of relief that don't involve swallowing or injecting anything), including compression, heat, light, stretches, acupuncture, etc. Also under this heading, medical interventions that don't involve the administration of a medicine to the body (eg. varicose-vein operations, deep-brain stimulation). [This forum contains Topics started prior to 2009 that deal with Non-prescription Medicines, Supplements, & Diet.]
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Re: Any luck with a sleep study?

Postby bjoyful » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:25 pm

I have just recently joined this discussion board. I've suffered with RLS for over 12 years. I did have the sleep study a year ago this month...and yes it is working. I literally detest having to use it but it has helped immensely. I'm on the c-pap and oxygen. I also take gabapentin twice a day and 1mg. requip . I did start magnesium a week ago...taking it at night. I believe it has also helped. As of the past week I've not had restless legs. But I stay busy....cannot take naps ....legs will not allow me to so I don't. I only get approx. 6 hours of sleep at night but do fine. Doctor says that may be all my body needs.

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Re: Any luck with a sleep study?

Postby stjohnh » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:18 pm

bjoyful wrote:I have just recently joined this discussion board. I've suffered with RLS for over 12 years. I did have the sleep study a year ago this month...and yes it is working. I literally detest having to use it but it has helped immensely. I'm on the c-pap and oxygen. I also take gabapentin twice a day and 1mg. requip . I did start magnesium a week ago...taking it at night. I believe it has also helped. As of the past week I've not had restless legs. But I stay busy....cannot take naps ....legs will not allow me to so I don't. I only get approx. 6 hours of sleep at night but do fine. Doctor says that may be all my body needs.


bjoyful, Welcome to the RLS community. You will find lots of people with compassion, understanding and lots of knowledge and experience here. I'm glad you found us.

RLS has two separate problems that initially seem related. First is the obvious one; jumpy legs (urge to move). When it finally gets bad enough to interrupt sleep is when most people with RLS go to see a doctor. Initially controlling the urge to move (usually with ropinerole (Requip) or pramipexole (Mirapex) is enough for the person to get to sleep. As the disease progresses, the SECOND problem begins to emerge: INSOMNIA. This occurs regardless of how well the urge to move is controlled, and dopamine agonists (like Requip and pramipexole) help this only minimally.

The medicines that seem to help some with sleep for people with RLS are gabapentin and medical marijuana (THC). Ordinary sleeping pills (prescription or over the counter) don't seem to help most people with RLS.

If you live where medical marijuana is legal, I would suggest getting some "edibles" and trying them. 10 mg of THC taken an hour or so before bedtime is a good starting place.

PS I love your user name.
Blessings,
Holland

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Re: Any luck with a sleep study?

Postby badnights » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:55 am

Hi bjoyful. Your dose of Requip/ropinirole is already the maximum recommended for WED/RLS (though Parkinson's patients can go much higher). There are two things for you to be aware of : one is that you may need iron, which may improve your symtoms and enable you to lower your dose of Requip. The other is that sustained use of dopamine agonists like Requip for RLS/WED will usually (in most people) actually make the disease worse over time. This worsening of WED/RLS that is caused by the drug that is supposed to help is called augmentation.

There are a number of informative pamphlets on augmentation published by the RLS Foundation (see the link below my signature), as well as numerous discussions on this board. Please learn as much as you can about it, because if it ever begins to happen to you, you need to be prepared - and your doctor should be prepared as well. Believe it or not, most doctors still don;t know much - or anything - about augmentation and will often tell you to increase your dose, when that will just make things worse. The only way to deal with augmentation is to stop taking the offending medication (meaning, usually, that you need to take a different class or medication or a combination of medications to control the WED/RLS symptoms).

As for the iron, there is a blood test - for ferritin concentration - that can give some indication of whether you need iron. You (and your doctor) should realize that the problem is low iron stores in our brains, not our blood, so there is no direct way of measuring that. Ferritin is an iron storage protein, and if its concentration in the blood is less than 100 in a person who has WED/RLS, that probably means their brain iron is low. To try to correct that, you would supplement with oral (or intravenous) iron, as long as there are no contraindications.

It sucks not to be able to nap, and if you feel like napping, that means you;re probably not getting enough sleep.
Beth - Wishing you a restful sleep tonight
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