Newly Released Study. I am NOT a doctor, so make of it what you will. Link to full story below.
Quoted here from MedPage. Full story at :
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Psychiatry/ ... ns/dh/7959
Methadone Use May Pose Sudden Death Risk
By Charles Bankhead, Staff Writer, MedPage Today
Published: January 14, 2008
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PORTLAND, Ore., Jan. 14 -- Methadone-associated sudden cardiac death is a risk even when used at appropriate doses to treat pain or drug addiction, investigators here concluded.
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There were no clear cardiac causes for 77% of sudden deaths associated with therapeutic methadone doses, Sumeet S. Chugh, M.D., of Oregon Health and Science University, and colleagues, reported in the January issue of The American Journal of Medicine.
In contrast, 60% of sudden deaths unrelated to methadone use involved cardiac abnormalities.
"The significantly lower prevalence of cardiac disease in the case group implicates methadone, even at therapeutic levels, as a likely cause of sudden death," the authors concluded. "These findings point toward an association between methadone and occurrence of sudden death in the community."
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METHADONE USE PRESENTS HEART RISK EVEN AT THERAPEUTIC DOSES
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Hmm, I'm wishing for a lot more information than the article offers.
I don't know what oral dose would typically produce a "<1 mg/L, average 0.48 mg/L" blood level. The notion of a "therapeutic dose" describes a pretty wide range of dosing, depending on the therapy and the patient.
I'm also curious how methadone compares to other opioids, opioid analogues, and synthetic opioids, with regard to the "blockade of the cardiac potassium ion channel". If they all do it, that would be good to know.
I do know that even 7.5mg methadone depressed my respiration the first night I took it, and probably depressed my cardiac activity as well. Scared me. I'd like to know what percent of the fatalities occurred amongst people who were just beginning their therapy.
Tolerance is a huge factor as well. That 7.5mg dose that frightened me would be no big deal to someone who had previously been on multiple doses of oxycodone per day, for instance.
Anyone here have access to the American Journal of Medicine? Maybe the original paper has answers to some of these questions.
I don't know what oral dose would typically produce a "<1 mg/L, average 0.48 mg/L" blood level. The notion of a "therapeutic dose" describes a pretty wide range of dosing, depending on the therapy and the patient.
I'm also curious how methadone compares to other opioids, opioid analogues, and synthetic opioids, with regard to the "blockade of the cardiac potassium ion channel". If they all do it, that would be good to know.
I do know that even 7.5mg methadone depressed my respiration the first night I took it, and probably depressed my cardiac activity as well. Scared me. I'd like to know what percent of the fatalities occurred amongst people who were just beginning their therapy.
Tolerance is a huge factor as well. That 7.5mg dose that frightened me would be no big deal to someone who had previously been on multiple doses of oxycodone per day, for instance.
Anyone here have access to the American Journal of Medicine? Maybe the original paper has answers to some of these questions.
Disclaimer: I often talk about what I do and what works for me, but these are specific to me and you should always consult a healthcare professional before trying these things yourself, lest you endanger your health or life.
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I've seen very significant methadone-induced torsades a few times in my career-- but in both cases, they were patients on very large doses of methadone. >150 mg per day. I found a link for a really nice paper on QTc prolongation and methadone. Those of you on methadone should read it:
http://www.smw.ch/docs/pdf200x/2005/19/smw-10939.pdf
This paper basically states that the 2 scenarios that are most important predictors of QTc prolongation are: 1) adding other QTc prolonging meds on top of your methadone (a list can be found at www.qtdrugs.com) and/or 2) when you have low potassium levels in your blood.
Just so everyone knows-- this is NOT just a methadone issue-- there are quite a few meds on the market that can cause EKG changes.
http://www.smw.ch/docs/pdf200x/2005/19/smw-10939.pdf
This paper basically states that the 2 scenarios that are most important predictors of QTc prolongation are: 1) adding other QTc prolonging meds on top of your methadone (a list can be found at www.qtdrugs.com) and/or 2) when you have low potassium levels in your blood.
Just so everyone knows-- this is NOT just a methadone issue-- there are quite a few meds on the market that can cause EKG changes.
Josh
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I add my thanks, Josh. I appreciate greatly that you are willing to offer your expertise to us like this, as I imagine many of us do.
Susan, I couldn't find anything there, either. I did a search and found this great list: http://www.arizonacert.org/medical-pros ... ist-01.cfm
In case that doesn't work (it is a pop-up), here is the direct site: http://www.arizonacert.org/medical-pros ... -lists.htm#
Susan, I couldn't find anything there, either. I did a search and found this great list: http://www.arizonacert.org/medical-pros ... ist-01.cfm
In case that doesn't work (it is a pop-up), here is the direct site: http://www.arizonacert.org/medical-pros ... -lists.htm#
Ann - Take what you need, leave the rest
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